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Jack YuModerator
I’m pretty sure my second time was 49.3xxx not 65.396.
Jack YuModeratorRyan, I’ve ordered a bunch, so there will be plenty, much more than what’s been asked for in this thread. So you will get one!
Jack YuModeratorNo problem John, glad to help!
Jack YuModeratorNo worries Justin, I like a good debate. I asked you to coach because you and Mack are super fast…always good to get some help from the passenger seat, second set of eyes.
I agree with Dave in that I thought it was a well-balanced course, favoring neither type. Dave has designed some courses that really favor the hp…ask someone like James Keane how he loves those courses more than this one. I usually talk with most people and ask them what they think of the course. So I’m used to what this general crowd thinks, maybe not what other groups think.
Jack YuModeratorWe do get it. Yes of course, turns that you have to shut it down and go are better for high horsepower cars. Is anyone arguing against that? Was that the case in 5 turns on this past course, I don’t believe it, maybe 1-2 turns max. You can’t accept the opinion of others, even the course designer.
Here’s a suggestion, do some more coaching. If we are all having issues and should be faster, then I welcome your expertise on it. Teach us how to drive a high powered car on what most of think is a tight course, then it might change all of our opinions.
Jack YuModeratorI would totally believe you if you handily beat your brother with the mazdaspeed, but since you didn’t, well then it’s your opinion.
I would also totally believe you if I hadn’t walked around and talked to other folks. The high horsepower people were not happy, “man this course is fast!” or “I really got the power on” was not something I heard once. Perhaps someone else can chime in here, since this seems to be a two-side, no budging conversation.
I know you don’t make up numbers, I was just asking how do you know if this was a horsepower course when you yourself were driving on it with 168.
Jack YuModeratorCertainly not always the fastest way. The fastest way around a 180 u-turn is not a straight line to the wall end. Last month’s course also had a deceptive slow 90+ corner where the best line was not the shortest. In fact, it was your video that showed me that the wider line was better. Not sure where you are going with this one.
I think your opinion of what a high horsepower course is and mine differ greatly…so be it. I happen to have a high horsepower car and remember one turn that was barely fast. How do you know if you have 168 horses yourself? Are you thinking STi’s and Evo’s with 4 wheel drive are the same as our cars here, just point, turn and go?
Jack YuModeratorWell, I still don’t fully agree with you, considering there was a lot of room in some of the 90+ turns, I wouldn’t say all of them required a point and shoot approach solely for horsepower cars. Perhaps two of them were. We’ve had plenty of past courses where horsepower was a much bigger factor than this course, with a noticeable gap between regulars depending on the course design. Perhaps Dave can comment, he’s the designer and is well aware of which course he designs are geared to light vs. horsepower.
Jack YuModeratorT-shirts being printed today! Then shipped by next week…I’ll post pics of the actual shirts when they arrive.
Jack YuModerator53 isn’t slow for a 3rd autocross, that’s pretty good for 225 width tires and crappy Continentals! A lot a guys getting low 50’s have much wider tires than yours, and better rubber on them and way more experience.
Since this wasn’t a horsepower course and your lines look decent, the other advice is to gas earlier and brake harder! And get better tires (and wider if possible) when yours wear out.
Jack YuModeratorHi Mark, the print order takes 3 weeks, so it will not make it by the 25th, but a week or so afterwards. I’ll bring them to every autocross after May, so any time you have the money is fine. I also have a credit card reader (Square) to accept payments.
Jack YuModeratorFinal version uploaded…new text, small bits and pieces, Formula Ford added! Order is being drawn up, thanks for posting your sizes, it helps a lot!
Jack YuModeratorDave, the short answer is, unless you are in Gonzo, the raw times are used in all other classes.
At the end of the year, all classes use adjusted times since we are all competing in one big class essentially.
Jack YuModeratorYes, if you order hundreds, then I will definitely add it! No just kidding, I will try…can’t guarantee anything until I give it a shot yet.
Jack YuModeratorMark, believe or not I had one in the original design, I might put it back, if I can make it look good and balanced. Some minor tweaks will be in there before I print it up, it’ll be a surprise!
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